Posts by White Dove

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WHAT "WERE" YOU IN HIGH SCHOOL? AND DID YOU GO ON TO HIGHER EDUCATION?

by juni in

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friends

just a fluffy question ~~~.

were you a freak?

jock?

White Dove

I was a freak with no real friends who dressed in ill-fitting garage sale clothes. I had bad grades and no direction. Wait! I did have a direction! My mom conditioned me to graduate from high school, get married right away, and start having kids immediately (the man is supposed to support the wife and children), which is exactly what I did, contrary to everyone else's advice. I ended up divorced from a deadbeat and living on welfare and help from other family. Totally different from my goal of being a full time pioneer (no job of course) and happily married with kids. Mine was a dream of the '50's. Not very practical in the '90's!

I'm in my late 30's and in college since age 31. Others wonder when I will ever get done, but I'm a single mom in college. Do the math! It just takes us longer. At least we are doing it!

Now, I am thoroughly spiritually confused. Raised in "truth" but left two years ago. I think I'm a pagan but not sure. The witch at the witch store (my name for those cool pagan shops) said that many pagans and witches came out of the JW religion. It can ruin a person for Christianity. I sure do believe that! So, I'm reading up on Wicca while going to the Assembly of God church in town and studying up on mainline Christianity. I figure that one will stick more than the other. I want to take what I like out of everything and discard what I don't want. You know, make up my own faith/lifestyle from scratch. All of the naturalness of a pagan life sounds so nice, but I can't seem to buy into the god/goddess thing.

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What Do I Do Now?

by R.F. in

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as some of you may know, i'm currently an active jw that is tired of the lies, deception, and overall bs of the wts.

right now i'm finding myself going into the angry stage as to how manupulative the org is in the lives of so many and how they ruin them.

i feel a little helpless sometimes now that i just wonder how things will turn out.

White Dove

Hi!

I've been there and still am there. So difficult to know exactly what to do. I want to send my DA letter now so badly but don't dare on account of my grandparents. I have found fading very difficult as I have to hide what I do: A NORMAL LIFE! 1/2 of my family is not in the lie and the 1/2 that is treats them very badly. I worry they would do that to me. As far as occupying my time, I am so busy with kids, college, and church that I don't have time to do much else. I would start making friends out there right now so you won't feel so isolated after the separation from WTS is complete. I needed to do that, anyway. I read the NKJV and the NWT (for comparison) regularly. Did you know that the NWT says that Thomas wanted to see his hands with the holes of the nailS? Nails! Plural! I was floored. The other sheep's identity floored me, too. Gentiles, no less! Wow! Now, that's quality Bible reading.

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New here....Tired of pain

by Momma of 2 in

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i don't have a lot of time to post at the momment.

i am a new mother of twin boys...when i get an update picture of both of them together i will use it as my icon..til then you just see jimmy.

here is a link to my story, it was posted on another wonderful board.. http://p196.ezboard.com/fexjehovahswitnessforumfrm14.showmessage?topicid=377.topic.

White Dove

Momma of 2,

That was an amazing story! I, too, was abandoned by the entire congregation while PTSDing over an armed robbery of which I was one of the devistated victims. They DON'T care. I'm so sorry for all that you went through, but I'm glad you stayed alive to enjoy life's beauty through your beautiful babies! (toys)

I hope I said that right.

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Would You Kill Some One If Your Government Told You To?

by frankiespeakin in

how far do you allow the government tell you what to do?

do you allow governemt to make those dicisions for you?

White Dove

No. I would as soon turn the weapon on myself than take another life. I was in an armed robbery terrorist style, so yes, I can say that I would not kill. He wanted to kill me, but I only wanted to get the weapon from him, not kill him. I had no death wishes for the bad guy whatsoever. Just disarm him. Now, take the situation of someone actively harming one of my little cubs and I'm a mamma bear who could possibly kill. It depends on the situation.

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Summer Weight Loss - Join me! - We can do it! - Operation Keychain is on!

by UnConfused in

ok folks - here is the deal, i gained my weight back (and some more) after i got my taste buds back from last summer's cancer o' fun.. i'm calling this operation key chain because weight watcher's gives away a key chain if you lose 10% in 11 weeks.. i'm now 172 lbs - 26.9 body index.

i want to lose 12 lbs by july 1st.. who wants to join me?

post your goal here and we'll do progress updates.. my "program" is this.. 1 cup of cereal in the morning.

White Dove

Count me in, too! I am going to follow the South Beach diet phase 3 to do this. I want to follow something that I will use my entire life. I am a bit active, so it should work. I am stretching my size 10 clothes. EEK!!!

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Did you make a new religion for yourself?

by White Dove in

i'm associating with a church that i like very much, however, i find some things hard to digest, like jesus resurrecting himself.

i think the father did that, not him.

anyway, i am thinking that i can just keep associating for social reasons and some religious ones while reading the bible and having my own beliefs based on how i understand the bible and not blindly believe doctrine just because a big church teaches it.

White Dove

Amber Rose,

That sounds like fun!

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Did you make a new religion for yourself?

by White Dove in

i'm associating with a church that i like very much, however, i find some things hard to digest, like jesus resurrecting himself.

i think the father did that, not him.

anyway, i am thinking that i can just keep associating for social reasons and some religious ones while reading the bible and having my own beliefs based on how i understand the bible and not blindly believe doctrine just because a big church teaches it.

White Dove

Infamousone,

Thank you so much. I feel such freedom in researching things, though not as deeply as I should. I am comparing different Bibles with the Reasoning book and have found that the reasons and scriptures they give for not doing or doing or believing things are not reasons at all or connected at all with the question. I read the question like should Christians do this or that? and then look up the scripture in the NWT Bible. The scripture doesn't even answer the question! It is not even related to it! Then, I take another Bible and compare it to the NWT and find that they left out a bunch of stuff. Unfortunately, the more I do this, the more disconnected I find the Bible to be. It is becoming less and less harmoneous.

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Did you make a new religion for yourself?

by White Dove in

i'm associating with a church that i like very much, however, i find some things hard to digest, like jesus resurrecting himself.

i think the father did that, not him.

anyway, i am thinking that i can just keep associating for social reasons and some religious ones while reading the bible and having my own beliefs based on how i understand the bible and not blindly believe doctrine just because a big church teaches it.

White Dove

I'm associating with a church that I like very much, however, I find some things hard to digest, like Jesus resurrecting himself. I think the father did that, not him. Anyway, I am thinking that I can just keep associating for social reasons and some religious ones while reading the Bible and having my own beliefs based on how I understand the Bible and not blindly believe doctrine just because a big church teaches it. How many of you did that? Started your own belief system while reading the Bible. I found that no religion has a what do you call it? a monopoly on truth. JW's are wrong, but so are so many others.

My plan: Read the Bible and make a list of my new and old beliefs that I still want to keep and those that I just found. Also, I want to make a list of the things the WTS teaches that I simply don't abide by or believe anymore. I need to get my head straight about all of this. It is driving me crazy!

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Spirits of the Dead - love this brochure

by moomanchu in

this is a fun brochure to read after you have been out for awhile makes you realize how crazy it all was.. i listed some good quotes, there's more.. .

spirits have no tlived and died on earth (cept those bad angels before the flood).

spirits exist!

White Dove

Did they actually use the phrase you will be free from...ignorance.? EWWW!!!!!!!!!!!

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Spirits of the Dead - love this brochure

by moomanchu in

this is a fun brochure to read after you have been out for awhile makes you realize how crazy it all was.. i listed some good quotes, there's more.. .

spirits have no tlived and died on earth (cept those bad angels before the flood).

spirits exist!

White Dove

wtwizard,

I totally agree with you on the possibility of the right-brain. After my mom studied with my brother and I about demons in the Paradise Lost book when we were little, I used to have paralyzing dreams that the demons were attacking me. However, when I was six years old and wanted so badly to celebrate Christmas and prayed outoud to Satan to take me with him so I wouldn't have to be a Witness anymore, know what happened? Nothing. I was a little disappointed. There have been demonic stories coming out of the mental institutions for I don't know how long due to mental illness. I think that if it is not the right-brain, it is mental illness. Maybe it is an illness of the right-brain. I'm sorry if I offended anyone out their who believe they had such experiences. I don't mean to offend, just discuss possibilities.